June 2008
MINUTES SUBJECT TO CORRECTION BY THE SHELBURNE PLANNING COMMISSION. CHANGES, IF ANY, WILL BE RECORDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE NEXT MEETING OF THE COMMISSION. | TOWN OF SHELBURNE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MEETING June 12, 2008 MEMBERS PRESENT: Dick Elkins, Peter Gibbs, Dennis Webster, Gary von Stange, Kate Lalley, Kay Kraushaar. (Tucker Holland was absent.) STAFF PRESENT: Dean Pierce, Town Planner. OTHERS PRESENT: Tom Koerner. AGENDA: - Call to Order
- Approval of Agenda
- Approval of Minutes (May 8, 2008)
- Open to the Public (Public Comment)
- Discussion of Zoning Changes
- Discussion of Sewer Service Area
- Act 250 Project Update
- Upcoming Agenda
- Other Business/Correspondence
- Adjournment
1. CALL TO ORDER In the absence of Tucker Holland, Dick Elkins called the meeting to order at 7:08 p.m. 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA There were no changes to the agenda. 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES (5/8/08) MOTION by Gary von Stange, SECOND by Peter Gibbs, to approve the 5/8/08 minutes as written. VOTING: unanimous (5-0)[Dennis Webster not present for vote]; motion carried. 4. OPEN TO THE PUBLIC There were no comments from the public at this time. 5. DISCUSSION OF ZONING CHANGES Staff reported most comments at the public hearings held by the Selectboard on the zoning bylaws were directed toward the Village Center and the Mixed Use District. The public hearing process was explained relative to substantive changes by the Selectboard and opportunity for the Planning Commission to comment. Kay Kraushaar suggested prior to a rewrite a meeting with the Selectboard be held to discuss their concerns and have a dialogue on the proposed changes. Peter Gibbs stated a subset of the two boards could meet. Dick Elkins said he has concern about the different interpretations of the regulations that were presented to the Selectboard. The interpretations may not be what the Planning Commission intended. There was agreement the language should be clarified if there are different interpretations so the bylaws state exactly what is desired. Tom Koerner urged meeting with the Selectboard to discuss the changes so everyone has the same understanding of the bylaws. MOTION by Kay Kraushaar, SECOND by Peter Gibbs, to draft a letter requesting a pre-meeting (meeting before the Selectboard begins deliberations) with a subset of the Selectboard and Planning Commission or the full boards if possible to discuss the zoning amendments. DISCUSSION: Kate Lalley commented it will be helpful to have some of the build-outs shown for visual clarity. Peter Gibbs pointed out the Planning Commission has not had the opportunity to present to the Selectboard so it makes sense to meet before the Selectboard closes the hearing process and makes a decision. Tom Koerner asked if the bylaws will be adopted as a whole or piecemeal. Dean Pierce said adopting points of agreement and continuing work on the more difficult items versus adopting the entire package was discussed. Gary von Stange suggested rather than a pre-meeting the Planning Commission should attend a Selectboard meeting with opportunity to make a presentation or explain areas that the Selectboard may feel need further explanation or the Planning Commission feels needs further explanation. VOTING: Kay Kraushaar withdrew the motion. MOTIN by Kay Kraushaar, SECOND by Peter Gibbs, to request a segment of time on the Selectboard’s agenda the meeting after the public has finished giving comment on the zoning bylaws and before the Selectboard begins deliberation. VOTING: unanimous (6-0); motion carried. Dean Pierce noted comment on the Lakeshore Overlay District has not yet been heard by the Selectboard. Remaining sections of the bylaws to be covered include Lakeshore, Flood Plain, Water Course, General Regulations, Definitions. Regarding building height, there was a graphic presentation (not visual using balloons) to the Selectboard. The Selectboard may still want a visual representation. Tom Koerner asked if the Planning Commission considered expanding design review requirements into the entire parcel in the village rather than on just a portion. Dean Pierce stated the Planning Commission would have to discuss changing the boundaries of the design review district. Mr. Koerner commented credit for exceptional design (Section 841.3) could be a ‘sticky wicket’ down the road. The Planning Commission should consider a vehicle to extend the design review district so quantifying or qualifying exceptional design does not fall on the Development Review Board. There was further discussion of the ‘exceptional design’ language and density bonuses. Dick Elkins felt the town should keep it simple and allow density on a piece of property that is desired. Kay Kraushaar agreed there is ambiguity in the design criteria, and the density has been increased in the village area already so density bonuses should not provided too. Tom Koerner observed higher density and building height could be an issue outside the village, such as in the Commerce/Industry District. Dean Pierce noted exceptional design has been in the bylaws in other districts, for example Residential 2 (density bonus granted for exceptional design). Peter Gibbs suggested funds be requested to hire a consultant to get the answers the town needs to make a decision so the matter is not unresolved a year from now. There was further discussion of building height. One issue is the ability of firefighters to help people in the building if the ladder is only 28’ in length. It was noted the Fire Chief felt if the building has a sprinkler system this will allow time for the ladder truck from South Burlington to arrive on scene. The definition of building height relative to the average finished grade to the ridge and to the mid-point of the ridge versus the proposed grade to the average height between the peak and eave was reviewed. Tom Koerner suggested the building on Allen Drive being built by John Larkin might provide an example of what would meet Shelburne’s regulations. Dean Pierce announced the planning consultant, Mike Munson, will meet with the Planning Commission in August or September due to the delay of the zoning bylaws with the Selectboard. 6. DISCUSSION OF SEWER SERVICE AREA Dean Pierce reported the research process ran from September, 1997 to February 2001 to figure out the size of the treatment plant, demand, and useful life. A map of the service area was developed. There was discussion of conditions being met to extend outside the sewer district. Dennis Webster observed there are conservation areas deliberately left out of the sewer service area, but the request involves a conservation area that is within the service area. Dean Pierce explained a district sets the outer boundary. There are areas within that boundary that will not be developed. The Town Manager will attend the next Planning Commission meeting to discuss the matter. Gary von Stange suggested getting information from Mr. Tiballi before the meeting with the Town Manager to determine if a correction is needed. Kay Kraushaar added it should be determined if there were legal agreements when the land was subdivided. Ms. Kraushaar recalled the Planning Commission was clear the only reason to extend the sewer district was to address a failed system. Dick Elkins felt sewer service should not be on conserved land because growth will be encouraged. Mr. Tiballi has the right to agricultural use of the land, but it is not certain the town is obligated to extend the sewer line. The consensus of the Planning Commission is to wait until further information on the matter is receive before meeting with the Town Manager. There was discussion of the allocation ordinance. Capacity is allocated in three year blocks. An estimate of demand and the impact of the zoning changes on demand are needed to determine the capacity available and if the treatment plants can operate at the current rate of dispersement. 7. ACT 250 PROJECT UPDATE Gary von Stage announced due to recent changes relative to the project there is no longer the need to recuse himself from the discussion. Dean Pierce reported on June 5th there was a meeting with the project developer who asked for a meeting with the Planning Commission in the near future to get advice on changes the Planning Commission feels would make the project acceptable to Shelburne. Gary von Stange expressed reservation about providing an opinion on an application that is not before the Planning Commission for review. Also, it is doubtful the Town Attorney will find the situation acceptable at this procedural juncture since the town is in legal proceedings on the project. It was noted the Planning Commission did hear a presentation on the proposal in the past. There was further discussion of the Planning Commission providing input on the project. The Planning Commission is a policy making board and does not review projects. The Development Review Board reviews projects. Kate Lalley pointed out if the Planning Commission has party status at Act 250 it would be nice to know what is being planned since the development is on the town’s border. The consensus of the Planning Commission is to allow a 15 minute presentation by the developer with the Planning Commission reserving the right not to comment. 8. UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS - Sewer Service Area provided further information is received from Mr.Tiballi.
- Edgewood Project (So. Burlington) Presentation
9. OTHER BUSINESS/CORRESPONDENCE Community Center and Baseball Positive comment was made on the active community/town center and the Little League baseball program. Next Planning Commission Meeting July 10, 2008 at 7 p.m. Planning Commission Journal Copies of the journal were given to the Planning Commission for perusal. 10. ADJOURNMENT MOTION by Peter Gibbs, SECOND by Gary von Stange, to adjourn the meeting. VOTING: unanimous (6-0); motion carried. The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m. RScty: MERiordan
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